For those of you how believe Obama will get rid of nukes or something... Onward to Mars!

It's an absolutely hilarious idea. Obama is going to get rid of nukes! When? How?

Remember when someone told Bush that Mars was a planet, and that people could go there, and he said that sounded swell, and that America should go! This is like that. Bullshit.

A lofty sounding "goal" for the proles to chew on. Nothing more.

Of course the irony, the cosmic irony, is that contrary to popular belief, nuclear weapons actually do prevent war! Does anyone here doubt that WWIII would not have broken out over: Korea, Suez, Vietnam, Cuba, etc if it were not for the fact that had the central actors actually had gone at one another, we'd all be dead? Why has North Korea not been attacked? Nuclear weapons! Why did America not attack China? Yup. Why did America not attack Russia? Same reason!

WWII is pretty good proof that we did not need nukes to wipe out civilization. The most deaths caused by bombing were not at Hiroshima or Nagasaki, the most deaths caused by bombing were at Dresden, and Tokyo. Today, we can kill much better than that, a global war, even without nuclear weapons would easily destroy billions of lives, not to mention our environment.

No, nuclear weapons have prevented, not once but many times the utter destruction of the Earth. Obama probably does not know this, but it doesn't matter because he is entirely insincere about eliminating nuclear weapons. It's impossible for a dozen good reasons, and that he does know.

If Obama actually is serious about getting rid of nuclear weapons, his idiocy will result in WWIII and be the death of us all. And for that he gets a Peace Prize?

reposted from Salon

Attack on Iran - Are "secret sites" the New Anthrax?

I have been predicting it for years. As have many others, but the attacks on Iran's nuclear facilities hasn't happened. Why?

There is a debate over the attack, even in Israel. Even there, the serious military types worry that a strike, (actually weeks and weeks of strikes - see Kosovo) might be enough to trigger an Arab nations onslaught. And they worry about the hundreds of SRBM's that Iran could credibly place on Israeli targets. Never mind the certain disruption in oil supplies which would trigger a global economic catastrophe, which would be exponentially worse than the current one. And did I mention that Iran has dozens, if not hundreds, of hypersonic Russian and Chinese Sunburn, Mosquit and Silkworm ship killer missiles that could credibly destroy many of the American ships now operating in the Persian gulf?

It also now seems that even though Cheney supported an attack, Bush did not. That matters. Without US acquiescence at least, and support at best, any Israeli attack would fail. So America is critical. And to date, no green light has been given.

This does not mean that the fanatics, religious and otherwise, who occupy the Israeli government, won't make the calculation that if they attack, the United States MUST come in on their side to avoid, wait for it, ANOTHER HOLOCAUST.

Meh, I tend to depend on the good old MAD doctrine which worked so well with those "crazy", "ëvil" Russkies. All this talk about a "suicidal" leadership is just propaganda. As Sting said, even the Russians love their children too.

Is Ajad nuts enough to do it anyway? I don't think so, aside from the fact that he lacks the political power to order a strike, AND IS YEARS AWAY FROM HAVING A WEAPON! The real question is, Does Khameni want one? And the answer is that is that the Supreme Leader has declared atomic weapons "unislamic" .

Khamenhi knows that it would be the literal end of Iran, and even if the former mayor of Tehran wanted to nuke Israel, the military would never comply. The Ayatollahs would have to be mad to support such an adventure, and they are not, despite all the press to the contrary. They would be annihilated as Hilary said. In fact if Iran were to nuke Israel, even I would support glassing the entire country as a lesson to the next lot of maniacs.

The real danger will come from those "serious" journalists and politicians who will try to convince us that a "limited" strike is possible, just like the good old days at Osirak. Only those days are gone.

I think the real "fear" of an Iranian bomb is that the West and America in particular, will have to treat them as equals, and not "little people" who we can lord over and order around as we do with so many nuclear armless countries around the world.

So it's on again, off again. The name of the game is Maniacs/fundamentalists vs the Sane. Unfortunately for us all, there are many pushing for an attack, whatever the cost, it is up to we the people, to push back even harder, with facts and appeals to morality and common sense, thin as the latter are on the ground. I see no other way forward.

Sibel Edmonds on Mike Malloy, 911 bombshell, Bin Laden worked for the west

Sibel Edmonds, former FBI translator, and some say the "most gagged woman in America" has just revealed on the Mike Malloy show, to guest host Brad Friedman, that Osama Bin Laden had "intimate relations" with the intelligence community right up to 911.

Lots wrong with that picture.

http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/2009/07/sibel-edmonds-on-mike-malloy.html

More at Blad blog: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7332

Actual interview here: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7406

Unobtrusive. Pervasive. Lethal

MAV's micro air vehicles. AKA suicide bombers that can fly!

Remote controlled killing machines change everything! Going to war just got easy, and cheap! Does this mean more war? You bet!

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flight-international/2008/12/video-suicide-micro-air-vehicl.html


Most people think aircraft when they think of remotely operated battle bots, but soon land and sea bots they will be everywhere as well. If you think that remotely controlled killing machines are frightening, just wait till the autonomous killing machines come on line!

UPDATE: "The U.S. Department of Homeland Security launched another unmanned surveillance aircraft over the Canadian border on Monday, this time in the Great Lakes area, to try to stem the flow of drugs, migrants and terrorists into the country, U.S. officials told CBC News." http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2009/06/22/drone-great-lakes022.html

Robot tanks next? You betcha! The annexation of Canada just got easier! Good job Obama!

Fabled Enemies -- Really Excellent Video on the 911 Attacks

From Jason Bermas, a co-producer of the legendary, if flawed, "Loose Change" series. Unlike others, Bermas focuses on evidence that the hijackers had training at American military bases, and high level assistance obtaining American visas.

Comprehensive, mesmerizing, and chock a block with evidence and interviews.

Full review here.

9/11 Truth, Lies @ Salon

I often post over at Unclaimed Territory, Glenn Greenwald's blog at Salon.com.

Oftentimes, the subject of 9/11 Truth comes up. Glenn is not too keen on this as it is disruptive and generally "off topic". And as he says it quickly degenerates into a shouting match between the two opposing camps.

So today I offered to let people who want to discuss this in a more appropriate venue come here to Contumacious to discuss and of course YELL!

It's all good. Let the chips fall where they may.

My position is pretty clear, I don't buy the official story. I have no clear idea how they did it, as I am not privy to all the facts or the evidence, but I am sure that any good theory has to explain the facts, and my reading is that the official story fails to do this in many many ways.

So if anyone from Salon, or anywhere else for that matter, has something to say. Please feel free to say it here.

UPDATE
Some interesting links:

Operation Northwoods, the first draft for the 911 attack? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Pilots for 911 Truth: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/

Prof. David Ray Griffin video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8797525979024486145&hl=en

Architects for 911 Truth: http://www.ae911truth.org/

UPDATE 2

OPERATION

Operation Northwoods, which had the written approval of the Chairman and every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called for innocent people to be shot on American streets; for boats carrying refugees fleeing Cuba to be sunk on the high seas; for a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere. People would be framed for bombings they did not commit; planes would be hijacked. Using phony evidence, all of it would be blamed on Castro, thus giving Lemnitzer and his cabal the excuse, as well as the public and international backing, they needed to launch their war." - James Bamford, Body of Secrets

A big objection to 911 being an "inside job" is the sheer size of the operation, and the ability of the conspirators to maintain secrecy after the fact. The truth is we don't know how many people had to be in on it, because we don't know exactly what happened. It is true that in the past we have things like the Manhattan Project that even Harry Truman knew nothing about until he became President.

Operation Northwoods is not a conspiracy theory, it happened but was rejected by President Kennedy. What this teaches us is that there were elements within the military, indeed the leadership of the military Admiral Leimnitzer was prepared to

1) Start rumors (many). Use clandestine radio.
(2) Land friendly Cubans in uniform "over-the-fence" to stage attack on base.
(3) Capture Cuban (friendly) saboteurs inside the base.
(4) Start riots near the base main gate (friendly Cubans).
(5) Blow up ammunition inside the base; start fires.
(6) Burn aircraft on air base (sabotage).
(7) Lob mortar shells from outside of base into base. Some damage to installations.
(8) Capture assault teams approaching from the sea or vicinity of Guantanamo City.
(9) Capture militia group which storms the base.
(10) Sabotage ship in harbor; large fires -- napthalene.
(11) Sink ship near harbor entrance. Conduct funerals for mock-victims (may be in lieu of (10)).
And this is just a partial list! If you want to read the whole story go here.

Did they think they could keep this a secret? Yes. Did they keep it a secret for almost 50 years? You bet.
The parallels between what happened and what was planned in America, by Americans, in 1962 are massive.javascript:void(0)

Update 2
Excellent video that documents the use of Thermate at the WTC.
H/T Frank!

 

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